Wings of Redemption

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Ok, so, it looks like we are leaving the forest, and our food supplies are currently “critically low”. It took 2.5 days to get to the village. If we travel at half speed, Asëa will probably be able to gather enough food for the party most days, and can use Goodberry to supplement meals.

For this first day of traveling (the day we fought her dad), I rolled an 18 (so 22 after mods) on the survival check, so was able to get sufficient food for us that day. Obviously, there are still hours left in the day for Ethan to throw crap at us, but the question is, do we want to continue moving at half-rate and trying to get food (so, 4 days after this one traveling to get back to town), or do we want to rush and go entirely on goodberry (which is nourishing but not filling) and the two Trail Rations that Boots has (in which case, I won’t be doing much in the spell department in any encounters)? (the hidden third option of “two days won’t actually screw with any of us, so run!” theoretically works, but Asëa would never allow it. I’m sorry, but she wouldn’t)? Or are we gonna chase Dice and so head in an unknown direction for an unknown amount of time with basically zero food reserves?

Also, there was some talk of eventually getting Boots a horse. Is that a solid plan? If so, should Miithi and Asëa start considering mounts so as not to slow the party down on overland movement? I’ve been talking with Ethan about it a bit, and I really don’t want Asëa to have a HORSE unless she is literally slowing the party down without one, and even then she won’t just go and buy some horse (meaning we’d need to find a wild one, or one that has an abusive owner we can liberate it from, or else just go release all the horses in a stable in town and hope the guards can’t catch us once we scatter all their horses to the winds). She could probably double up with someone, she’s fairly light.

She might ride a unicorn or some such eventually if we find one that she can make friends with (unicorn=her god’s symbol, so if it likes her and doesn’t mind, she’d have no problems), but I suspect they are better than any of us right now! So, yeah, what is the plan for overland movement in the short to medium term? Theoretically at level 8, Asëa can burn a wild shape to BECOME a horse for a full day of travel (for Miithi, maybe?) but I’m not sure if I want to burn 1/3 of her daily wild shape (at that level) for travel or not, nor am I sure we want all the puns that opens up.

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Boots: Can we assume that by default when traveling, you are wearing the MW Leather Armor and that your heavier armor is carried by Aether (the only way to get you to a move speed of 30)? If so, I need to make sure to charge Aether for that weight.

Also, when I was writing this most recent story part, I noticed that Ethan rather pointedly asked if Flinn put the armor on (I presume this is in regards to the magic clasp of doom awesome)... have we figured out if he actually HAS yet? We have had two encounters since, but his AC never actually came up, so it works either way thus far.

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Thanks for reminding me about Flinn’s armor. Flinn! Enchantment status Current AC?

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While we are on the subject, as I have said, Asëa is going to start hanging onto that red gem as of “tomorrow morning”. It’s got a conjuration aura, though. Here’s hoping it’s not a red crystal of teleportation to alternate dimensions planes :) Oh well, Healing is a subschool of conjuration too, that wouldn’t be so bad…

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Horse for boots is solid enough, to do. I think its prolly easier for the horses to just stay at 30 ft than to get 3 horses somehow (they’re friggin expensive IIRC and our land speeds are only a temporary problem (also I have a mount spell i could grab later if necessary lol)). I’ll have to ask will to be sure but I dont see why he wouldn’t be wearing the MW Leather until we can get him a horse (and a full plate lol). As for food…. you got me there. I’ve sent lowell towards this topic so hopefully he can fix up his stuff too. (you emailed dylan yet lowell? or do I have to spam your phone more? >.>)

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FOOD IS FOR THE WEAK AND—let’s restock soon. I vote go to town. At what rate, I dunno.

My current AC is 16 without the sword/shield combo going. It’s 18 if I really wanna tank things up. Why?

As for party traveling speed, I’m sure Aether will remain a faithful member of the party when I move on to flying mounts of doom. I just don’t know if Boots is sober enough to ride. The party should avoid RUIs. Mithii can fly at level 5 if I think I heard Nick right. Finally, Asea’s got the whole transform and roll out thing going. Or bumming a ride. Whatever.

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Because I fail at realizing that your token HAD been correctly updated. Darn intuitive math sense that says 15 ~ 16, making me not realize that your AC was higher than it would be with Scale Mail >_>.

Oh, and Miithi can only fly for a limited amount of time at level 5. I think it’s 10 min/day, which is NOT gonna work for overland movement. You’ll have to wait until level 10 for permanent flight (and, based on what Nick has said, I’m sure he’ll figure out some way to stay airborne even while sleeping, so yes, I do mean permanent :P).

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Yeah, the problem with transform-and-roll out is that the effect is limited (starts 1 use per day, only ever gets to 6 per day) and lasts for 1 hour per level. So, its not even a full-day-of-traveling option until level 6 (when she would have to burn all of her uses per day), and becomes palatable at level 8 (when it only takes one usage to last all day traveling), and even then I really don’t think it’s worth the use of the ability (she only has 3/day at that point). And Miithi can’t fly effectively for 8 hours until level 10, so as I said, in the short to medium term, we need to figure out what we are doing about travel.

Though, with just one more horse and some shuffling of gear, I think that we could ride with two people on each horse. Both Miithi and Asëa are relatively light in both weight and gear. Of course, you’d have to convince Asëa that burdening the animals is worth the extra speed (in other words, give her a life-or-death deadline)

as for your AC, it was coz we needed to know if you have the gender-change armor awesome armor on. (lol, can’t help being paranoid).... ACTUALLY, if you really wanted to dodge Asëa’s flirting, that wouldn’t be so bad. lolol, sorry.

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I also vote returning to town. Asëa promised Esmeralda she’d come back, and they’ll probably have some talking to do. It’d be nice to spend a couple days resting, gathering intel on red dragon sightings, and generally not abusing our 2x experience to hit level 20 inside a game month!

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Also, since we probably won’t hear from Boots for a bit, and since I’ve got the character most likely to want to not starve people and also the character most likely to be able to find food, I propose that we take it slow enough to find food. There isn’t a whole lot of difference between 2 and 4 days when we can just do a later that evening (ok ok, more chances for encounters, but not horribly so), and if I blow more survival rolls we can get someone ELSE to check (its like DC 10 and not trained only, so anyone CAN try it)

Now, here is the question (and this is aimed more at Ethan than anyone): Do we want to try and cover non-fighting stuff without getting together on MapTool? For example, if we get lucky (wink wink) town is just a handful of dice rolls away, at which point we can take care of the talking and the resting and the other stuff that is kinda boring on maptool, and be ready for fun stuff when Will gets back. At the very least, we should fast forward to the first encounter on the way back :)

Also, just a random question: Are there any issues for creatures that need sleep sleeping on the ground rather than with a bedroll? Because we’ve got two people who need sleep doing that, and a bedroll sitting in saddlebags….

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At level 5 I can fly for 1 round per con bonus without tiring myself (per day) or twice that and become fatigued. So yea, hardly a huge thing (of course gliding doesn’t count against that so if i get sufficiently high up…)

As for bedrolls…. there is like almost NO CHANCE that Miithi would even FIT. I mean BIG ASS WINGS and hes taller than like 98% of humans… Not to mention he wouldn’t need one for the cold (wings > quilt) so he would most likely be used to sleeping sitting up against/in(on) a tree/rock or what have you. (I see tree because bird + tree = right for me, but then by RotW Raptoran + Rock = also ok so w/e)

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As for town, yea that works, Miithi doesn’t care so much right now so long as its AWAY from anyone who is related to Asea, or knew her growing up, or has met her more than a week ago… you get the idea.

As for flying while sleeping, easy: reverse gravity (or something that has at least the possibility for an 8 hour duration) + me = yay flying while sleeping (I don’t think you can do that with levitate but i’d have to check, and well its 1 am)

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RG is one round/level. So until you get to level 4800, that won’t work.

And yeah, I know, big wings, but it depends on what kind of bedroll it is. If its the sleeping bag kind, yeah, you’re not gonna fit due to HEIGHT (but if wings can be folded to work as a quilt, then I bet you could get in even that). If its the softer-than-the-ground thin-mattress-that-is-rolled-up kind, then you’d have no problems.

At any rate, I’ll just assign that to Boots but leave it in Aether’s possession (because if Boots carries it I think it throws him over light load limit and then he may as well wear the bigger armor). Mostly, just having a ton of crap sitting on the unclaimed treasure page makes me feel strange. Un-ID’d magic items we are being cautious with (except lets put on the armor and grab the mysterious glowy red gems!), but things like bedrolls really should be claimed.

Also, aww, you wanna run away from Eruanna? Well, fine, see if she defends you ever again ((pouts)). Oh. Right. Asëa’s the only one that groups animals in the “anyone” category and not “anything”. Well, never mind then :)

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Lets see, ways to “fly” all night:

  • Reverse Gravity: 1 Round/level, requires level 4800
  • Fly, Levitate: 1 Min/level, requires level 480
  • Floating Disk: 1 hour level, and takes 2 side-by-side to support enough weigh. Requires level 8 or 9 (it depends if Ethan thinks that 8 hours minus 6 seconds is close enough to 8 hours or not to work as full sleeping time, because the two casting would take two rounds so one would wink out a round early, and sorc’s can’t effectively quicken spells I think)
  • Contingency: combine with one of the others to set up a second casting keyed to the first one running out halves level requirement to a min of the level you need to take Contingency or the spell in question, whichever is greater.
  • Dream: 1 casting, with the message set to “you are flying” repeated enough to take 8 hours (it says any length and does not ban repeating the same message over and over!). No, you aren’t really flying, but maybe you’d think you are.
  • Forcecage: 2 hours level, level 7 spell, so min sorc level is 14. Just put one around nothing (or an ant or something if a creature is really required!) and sit on top. It’s invisible, so it LOOKS like you’re flying.
  • Hallucinatory Terrain: 2 hours level, level 4 spell, so min level is 8: Sit on a rock and then make it not look like it is there!

There are a few other things that would require a druid, but I don’t think she’d burn high level spells for that :) There may be others that I missed, too, but it looks like level 8 is the first that really has any chance.

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Also, just for the record: I’m sorta ignoring water right now, because we have a ton of waterskins and we are traveling more or less along a stream (in other words, we can drink from waterskins and re-fill in the stream and basically always have water). In other places, I’ll be more concerned with water. But then, Boots is a spontaneous caster and knows Create Water, so he can always whip us up some water even if I fail to prep the spell.

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(Actually, I just realized – the crazy thing is, if Flinn took off his armor and Boots had on the leather armor and we redistributed some gear Asëa rode the horse, we could in theory move at full speed, since the horse is double Asëa’s speed and half of double is the same as no net change, so she could move at half the horses speed (i.e. 30 feet) and still find food and stuff, and everyone else moves 30, and….. gah, the metagaming! Lets see here…. No, even getting Swii and Eruanna to chip in, it looks like we have about 20 lbs too much gear to get everyone a light load while doing that)

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Just another thought about Boots’ armor: if we ARE going to be moving at half Asëa’s speed for to find food, Boots may as well wear the heavier armor since looking for food limits the party to a speed of 15 and armor is 20. That just matters if an encounter shows up.

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Wing + sleeping bag wouldn’t work anyawy; I can’t imagine how uncomfortable it would be to have all your feathers shoved in the wrong direction. That or he’d have to have anything above like well… guh how to describe it, but the top of the wings would connect at the top of his shoulder blades so they would end a good ways down his back, making for some odd arrangement of sleeping bag to fit in w/o his wings <.<;

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Well, it depends on what kind of bag it is (though I still think that the bedroll is just a thin mat to lay on), if it is the kind that opens at a side (button-up) then you could still get in w/o feathers going the wrong way. Since I presume that Raptorians have figured out how to sleep in general (that is, if they can’t sleep easily on their backs due to wings, they sleep on their sides or stomachs or some such, but the point is, as a race they know how to sleep!), with the correct bedroll it could be done. But as I said, I think that’s entirely moot because, in my minds eye, I see something like this which is basically thin mat + tarp-thing that you wrap around self, which should work with wings assuming they do not sleep with wings fully unfurled

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If everyone is fine doing non-combat stuff outside of MapTool, that’s cool. Or if Will wants us to get all the exposition out of the way and just fast forward to the next combat, that’s fine too. In either case, you guys need to tell me! If I find out that everyone is fine with an asynchronous session, then I’ll start one up ASAP. So, what do you guys think?

Yeah, bedrolls are flat things that make the ground not hurt so much. Wings won’t interfere significantly. Although, does RotW specifically describe how Raptorans sleep? If so, you might be able to get away with a bedroll by convincing me that you have a good alternative.

And yes, you can ignore water. That survival check is good enough to get you 6 daily allotments of water, anyway.

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Oh, I didn’t mean the water specifically today, I just meant on this trip, I wasn’t monitoring how much water we had in our waterskins because we have so many times to refill it. In other words, even IF the entire party totally blew survival checks tomorrow, you’d REALLY have do some work to convince me that no one bothers to use the stream that we are clearly following! Ok, finding food, I can see that might be hard, but it doesn’t exactly take a rocket scientist to find water when you are following a stream (and since the stream goes to the marshes and we cross the marshes, we ARE following it!)

And yeah, I’d like to get as much “boring” stuff out of the way as possible (not that I think it is boring, but I think the last few sessions have annoyed the non-me people a bit!)

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Yeah, but it’s the other three players I’m concerned with. Lowell? Nick? What do you guys want to do? And what about Will – do you think he’d care either way?

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Will would LOVE to get everything but the battles out of the way before hes called in, since, to this point, nothing has really been involving his character and so he finds all the npc-chatter boring. If we swap to something Boots-central he may disagree (since he doesn’t really like doing things on OP but well we’ll cross that bridge when we get there). As for me I’m down with whatever, especially since dylan is writing it all up into a nice story for us, so even if we don’t see the stuff first hand we get a (potentially more interesting) version to read.

Sleep isn’t specifically detailed in RotW (though some of the stories have mention of going to bed, rather than like roosting or whathaveyou). Personally I see Miithi as the type to sleep sitting up, hes been one to sort of ‘camp’ all of his life and rather than sleep in the beds with his flock he’d climb a tree and sleep on a branch or against the trunk. IIRC (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0224.html) there aren’t any rules stipulating what happens comparatively with a “good night’s sleep” to a “bad night’s sleep”, so I’m not sure how important a bedroll really is. But if it doesn’t make any difference it would make more sense character-wise for Boots to grab it since Miithi has a backstory supporting reason to not bother with one.

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That reminds me: The rules for forced marching say that curing the nonlethal damage removes the fatigue. This means, given a party with sufficient access to healing, you could force-march for like ever with no real issues.

Also, I’m curious – with Diehard, you can act even if you have -9 HP, but it doesn’t seem to help with non-lethal damage? So, getting whacked with a stick for a long time just slows you down, but walk too long or get hit with a few unarmed attacks, you just collapse unconscious? (for that matter, mathematically speaking, diehard should fail to work, as once you get to -1 HP, your non-lethal damage total of 0 is greater than your HP of -1 and therefore, even though you can act despite being wounded, you CANNOT act due to non-lethal damage issues. Or are we supposed to pretend that 0 isn’t greater than negative numbers WRT non-lethal damage?)

Also, if Lowell is ok with it and we proceed, I’d suggest using a different post here and that we take care to keep it all in-character, with OOC stuff in double parens like maptool.

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Taking care of the travel time on OP? Sure, that’s fine by me.

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I am going to see if I can transfer ownership of Swii’s character page to Cadin to see if that changes the creator. Swii might show up in the PC list for a second here. If it works, I’ll also give Aether to flunky. I’ll still be able to edit them since they are NPCs, I just want to see if I can get them to have the proper creator!

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